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Published on Monday, October 27, 2008 - 2:25pm |
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Whedon: Original DOLLHOUSE Pilot Will Not See Air!! Plus BUFFY/GALACTICA Writer Jane Espenson Has Joined The Show!!
I am – Hercules!!
What we heard earlier about Joss Whedon’s original “Dollhouse” pilot airing as the series’ second episode?
Never mind.
Apparently Fox is not going to air that original pilot at all. Whedon himself explains in a post on his worship-site, Whedonesque.com:
The original pilot was in fact thrown out. Again, at my behest. Once it became clear what paradigm the Network was shooting for, it just didn't fit at all, even after I'd reshot more than half of it (see above re: despair).
A bit further down the post, there’s this:
I will be crying on the shoulder of Jane Espenson come Monday, so congratudolences are in order. Excited for the Jane Flava.
Me also. “Galactica” vet Espenson was my favorite “Buffy” writer not named Joss.
Espenson tells AICN via email that her contract with NBC Universal expired in May, and she has joined Fox's "Dollhouse" as consulting producer, effective tomorrow.
Espenson is just the latest "Angel" writer to join "Dollhouse," following Tim Minear, Steven S. DeKnight, Sarah Fain and Liz Craft.
I was here going to link to Whedon’s entire Whedonesque post, but Whedonesque seems to be momentarily broken, so here’s the whole thing, which you can read without clicking anything:
What happened when the lights went out.
Sadly, this is not a naughty post. It's just Joss nattering on again.
I thought it was time to check in with you once again, gentle viewers. Or readers. Or pictures-looker-ats (that might be viewers). Also listeners, sniffers, haberdashers, Olympic hopefuls, the elderly, the youngerdly, and the mighty state of Oregon (go Oregon-based sports franchise!) Welcome all. Welcome... to me.
What's me up to? I'm glad me asked. Me've (I'm not doing that any more) been working on a little show called Dollhouse. Yes, perhaps you've read about how it's blazing an untrammeled path to surefire success, with nary a hitch or a hiccup, just pure blazing blazery, comet-like and meteoresque. What's that, you say? You've read other things? Dark, Yog-Sothothy rumors about shutdowns and delays? Poppycock! They’re true. But I never pass up a chance to say "poppycock". ("Balderdash" is so '07. Let it go.) I know there's been a lot of concern, various fabulous hues of panic alert readiness. So here's the skinny. Some of the names have been changed.
The show was ruined by Flim Flinear. Okay, that's another lie, and you're probably close to giving up on this blog, so here we go. Yes, we've had to make adjustments. Yes, it's been hard and I've been depressing to be around for awhile. Basically, the Network and I had different ideas about what the tone of the show would be. They bought something somewhat different than what I was selling them, which is not that uncommon in this business. Their desires were not surprising: up the stakes, make the episodes more stand-alone, stop talking about relationships and cut to the chase. Oh, and add a chase. That you can cut to. Nothing I hadn't heard before on my other shows (apparently my learning curve has no bendy part) but frustrating as hell given our circumstances - a pilot shot, scripts written, everybody marching together/gainfully employed... and then a shutdown. Glad I was for the breathing room, but it's hardly auspicious. So back into the writer cave I went, wondering why I put up with this when I can make literally dozens of dollars making internet movies. Why I do put up with this is divided into three parts.
One: They're not wrong. Oh, we don't see eye-to-eye on everything, but wanting the first episodes to be exciting and accessible is not exactly Satanic. Being Satan is, but that's in their free time and hey, there's no judging in the Dollhouse. This kind of back and forth has happened on every show I've done, so if you liked those, chances are that was a part of why. And the need to focus on the essentials of what makes this universe tick - and which wire to cut to make it stop - really does bring up our game. So we as a staff have gone from blinking like unhoused moles to delving in with the same relish we had when we started. The show is really coming together now, in a way that I believe excites us and satisfies the Network. Of course, I have no idea if anybody else will like it, but I have the same faith in the staff, the crew and the remarkable cast that I always did. More, in fact. And what's more crucial:
Two: Nothing essential has changed about the universe. The ideas and relationships that intrigued me from the start are all there (though some have shifted, more on that), and the progression of the first thirteen eps has me massively excited. The episode we're shooting now I wrote as fast as anything I have before, not because I had to (although, funny side-note: I had to) but because I couldn't stop the words from coming. Because I can feel the show talking to me; delighting, scaring and occasionally even offending me. It's alive. Alive! Which is a far cry from how I felt a month ago. It's been hilarious trying to keep up with what's in, what's out, who's met whom and when - we've shot all of the first seven episodes out of airing order - but it's come together in a pretty thrilling way. My huge gratitude to our cast for their precision and patience. Which also includes...
Three: Eliza. Watching her on the monitors at two o'clock this morning I was reminded forcibly how much I wished I were in bed – but also how strong, radiant and unmistakable her presence is. She's someone who could coast on talent and never ever does. I love to watch her work. In fact, I think I got myself into this mess for that very reason, and though I have this fall occasionally sworn never to eat lunch with an actor I like again, I’m pretty pleased and crazy proud.
So here's me, slogging away on a show like days of old and not hating life. Again, you guys will be the judge, jury and execu... lawyer, but we do have something to show you. Something, I'm chuffed to say, still pretty damn strange.
As for what's been changed, well, some things I obviously can't tell you. Some I can, for the record: The original pilot was in fact thrown out. Again, at my behest. Once it became clear what paradigm the Network was shooting for, it just didn't fit at all, even after I'd reshot more than half of it (see above re: despair). To get a sense of how completely turned around I was during this process, you should know there was a scene with Eliza and the astonishing Ashley Johnson that I wrote and shot completely differently three different times, with different characters in different places (actually I wrote it closer to eight times), and none of it will ever see air. Which is as it should be (though I'm determined to get Ms. Johnson back in the future). The scene just didn't belong anymore. Similarly, the character of November has fallen out of the mix, because the show simply moves too fast now for me to do what I wanted with her. Season three, anyone...? Happily, Miracle Laurie is still with us in a new role, playing against (and pining for) Tahmoh's character, Paul Ballard. Their chemistry is deeply nifty. The only other major cast shift is that the Dollhouse head of security, Laurence Dominic (played by Reed Diamond), who was written just for the now-defunct first ep, has stuck like fly-paper, and Reed is very much in the family for the present. (Most of my problems seem to involve my actors making themselves indispensable. This is the good problem kind.)
Apart from that, it's all hush-hush: some things I'd intended to hold back are laid out much sooner, and some are rolling out more slowly. We're still heading toward Tim's intense two-part mind-blower - right before a thirteenth ep that may actually just be insane.
And finally, young Steve DeKnight, after writing and shooting an ep so cool it helped not only define the show but save its ass, is ending his consulting duties, the f#%&er. I will be crying on the shoulder of Jane Espenson come Monday, so congratudolences are in order. Excited for the Jane Flava.
And there you have it. I'll be writing more bulletins about "Cabin" and a certain DVD in the very near future, but I wanted to get you all some actual information for a change. I can count on you guys not to tell anyone, right? What's a blog?
Faithfully, -joss.
“Dollhouse” hits the Fox network early next year.


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Reader Talkback
Sigh... by fishpillow | Oct 27th, 2008 02:31:02 PM | Please do movies Joss... by drewlicious | Oct 27th, 2008 02:33:43 PM | As long as Joss is still
excited, so am I by Acappellaman | Oct 27th, 2008 02:34:05 PM | Gone... by fishpillow | Oct 27th, 2008 02:34:34 PM | "what paradigm the Network was
shooting for" wtf? by punto | Oct 27th, 2008 02:38:19 PM | Fox forced Firefly to be shown
out of order... by chromedome | Oct 27th, 2008 02:44:15 PM | I have a baaaad feeling about
this show... by SpyGuy | Oct 27th, 2008 02:46:12 PM | hey, I've never seen the
original Buffy pilot either: by newc0253 | Oct 27th, 2008 02:50:41 PM | Re: That BSG ad at the bottom
of the post. by Fawst | Oct 27th, 2008 02:54:12 PM | I'll have no sympathy for him by SilentP | Oct 27th, 2008 02:54:14 PM | FOX loves to cancel good
shows... by Fawst | Oct 27th, 2008 02:56:38 PM | To be clear by SilentP | Oct 27th, 2008 02:56:40 PM | I'm almost apprehensive to
check this out b/c of FOX by turketron | Oct 27th, 2008 03:00:20 PM | Good God by tiredpm | Oct 27th, 2008 03:00:52 PM | tiredpm by chiahead | Oct 27th, 2008 03:02:10 PM | ".. what paradigm the Network
was shooting for" by supertoyslast | Oct 27th, 2008 03:07:02 PM | Fox sucks by dioxholster | Oct 27th, 2008 03:07:41 PM | Eh by Mr. Zeddemore | Oct 27th, 2008 03:10:08 PM | What the suits thought they
were buying... by photoboy | Oct 27th, 2008 03:10:46 PM | tiredpm and chiahead by Le Vicious Fishus | Oct 27th, 2008 03:12:38 PM | Fawst- BSG ad looks funny. by dioxholster | Oct 27th, 2008 03:12:44 PM | I can't wait by _Maltheus_ | Oct 27th, 2008 03:16:58 PM | _Maltheus_ by Mr. Zeddemore | Oct 27th, 2008 03:22:08 PM | Thank you, tiredpm,chiahead
and le vicious fishus by tonagan | Oct 27th, 2008 03:31:13 PM | Go to SHOTIME! Now by MrFloppy | Oct 27th, 2008 03:34:02 PM | 86 pilots leaked over the past
few months..... by Riley Martin | Oct 27th, 2008 03:34:17 PM | The updates kinda kill the
show by Bass Ackwards | Oct 27th, 2008 03:35:03 PM | Firefly by frozen01 | Oct 27th, 2008 03:36:36 PM | "make the episodes more
stand-alone"?? by Dreamwriter | Oct 27th, 2008 03:50:13 PM | Dreamwriter by Acappellaman | Oct 27th, 2008 04:28:23 PM | Oops by Acappellaman | Oct 27th, 2008 04:28:51 PM | Bass Ackwards you're right... by SmokeFilledTavern | Oct 27th, 2008 04:39:40 PM | Simple equasion by fishpillow | Oct 27th, 2008 04:51:09 PM | relax by oisin5199 | Oct 27th, 2008 04:51:56 PM | C'mon guys.... by fishpillow | Oct 27th, 2008 04:55:52 PM | re: Serenity by _Maltheus_ | Oct 27th, 2008 04:56:08 PM | bud lite mode joss by alice 13 | Oct 27th, 2008 04:56:30 PM | Whedon - by ikkyu | Oct 27th, 2008 05:05:40 PM | Maltheus: Jane was no good
Samaritan... by mbeemer | Oct 27th, 2008 05:08:32 PM | So what he's really saying
is... by medicinaluser | Oct 27th, 2008 05:17:56 PM | First of all it's Jayne by yodaismyhomie | Oct 27th, 2008 05:18:09 PM | wow 32.50 for BG's 10 episode by rben | Oct 27th, 2008 05:19:36 PM | I hate to say this... by landocolt45 | Oct 27th, 2008 05:21:30 PM | Once Again, I Called This On
Dollhouse Months Ago!!! by Media Messiah | Oct 27th, 2008 05:25:45 PM | Go To You Tube For The
Original Buffy Pilot!!! by Media Messiah | Oct 27th, 2008 05:27:08 PM | I have a bad feeling about
this. by V'Shael | Oct 27th, 2008 05:35:50 PM | Hey, Medicinaluser, I'm
Here!!! by Media Messiah | Oct 27th, 2008 05:38:05 PM | Say No to Showtime! They hate
Scifi by V'Shael | Oct 27th, 2008 05:42:14 PM | Joss Whedon sat on a wall by snowpuff | Oct 27th, 2008 05:52:25 PM | Why Does He Bother With Fox?? by Oldnewbie | Oct 27th, 2008 06:04:17 PM | Media Messiah ..Thank The
Lords by medicinaluser | Oct 27th, 2008 06:24:42 PM | Good News! by Prior Walter | Oct 27th, 2008 06:29:06 PM | Media Messiah by RenoNevada2000 | Oct 27th, 2008 07:12:30 PM | This is turning into quite the
bizarre saga by bravogolfhotel | Oct 27th, 2008 07:26:24 PM | Thanks Medicinaluser by Media Messiah | Oct 27th, 2008 07:56:42 PM | Nose Spite Face by MajorMajorMajor | Oct 27th, 2008 08:09:44 PM | RenoNevada2000: Fox Execs by Media Messiah | Oct 27th, 2008 08:10:51 PM | So Whedon REALLY talks like
that? by JimCurry | Oct 27th, 2008 08:15:29 PM | Look god damnit. by Melvin_Pelvis | Oct 27th, 2008 09:08:15 PM | Sorry, wait, let me start over by Melvin_Pelvis | Oct 27th, 2008 09:09:13 PM | I, mean, like by Melvin_Pelvis | Oct 27th, 2008 09:32:10 PM | does anyone else by nora inu | Oct 27th, 2008 09:47:11 PM | So many
superhero-secretagent-spy
shows... by Christopher3 | Oct 27th, 2008 10:08:06 PM | Man, why'd Joss have to go and
trust Fox again? by SpacePhil | Oct 27th, 2008 11:00:34 PM | Well, this show is a certainly
a clusterfuck by TallBoy66 | Oct 28th, 2008 01:13:43 AM | TallBoy is right. This is a
clusterfuck. by Starship Captain | Oct 28th, 2008 03:30:30 AM | Nuts by MajorMajorMajor | Oct 28th, 2008 04:18:49 AM | Save Angel by masteryoda007 | Oct 28th, 2008 04:41:28 AM | Why did i read that and
imagine Ellen Page speaking? by IAmMrMonkey! | Oct 28th, 2008 05:12:36 AM | parts is parts by Melvin_Pelvis | Oct 28th, 2008 08:46:21 AM | it boggles the mind... by RockLobster800 | Oct 28th, 2008 08:47:07 AM | Hearing Whedon Dialogue is
Like Jamming Pencils in My
Ears by Aquatarkusman | Oct 28th, 2008 08:47:40 AM | Is it too early to start a
petition to save the show? by Mickguinness | Oct 28th, 2008 09:00:54 AM | If it goes past Season 1 it
will be a miracle... by TKurata | Oct 28th, 2008 09:01:46 AM | Starship Captain... by Mickguinness | Oct 28th, 2008 09:10:31 AM | Give Fox a break? by password.swordfish | Oct 28th, 2008 10:26:34 AM | Joss, oh Joss, Have You
Learned Nothing? by Rogue Planet | Oct 28th, 2008 10:30:23 AM | Media Messiah by oisin5199 | Oct 28th, 2008 02:52:52 PM | I have no trust in this guy by Melvin_Pelvis | Oct 28th, 2008 03:50:59 PM | Proves that Fox and Joss had
no clue by kabong | Oct 28th, 2008 04:17:17 PM | Re: password by Cobbio | Oct 28th, 2008 04:36:51 PM | So comic book guy needs a job by Melvin_Pelvis | Oct 28th, 2008 05:10:10 PM | melvin_pelvis by buffywrestling | Oct 28th, 2008 05:47:29 PM | buffywrestling by Melvin_Pelvis | Oct 28th, 2008 06:05:19 PM | muther fucker inflicted Wes on
me by Melvin_Pelvis | Oct 28th, 2008 06:09:05 PM | Joss has.... by fishpillow | Oct 28th, 2008 06:10:56 PM | Canceled Mid-Season, Creates
Cult Following, Film Released,
FOX by LaserPants | Oct 28th, 2008 06:36:27 PM | FOX Makes Crazy LOOT On DVDs
From Show They Canceled by LaserPants | Oct 28th, 2008 06:37:18 PM | Oh. You have gotham_knight's
posting style - sorry by buffywrestling | Oct 28th, 2008 07:17:30 PM | Hi, Oisin5199 by Media Messiah | Oct 28th, 2008 07:32:08 PM | re:Oh. You have
gotham_knight's posting style by Melvin_Pelvis | Oct 28th, 2008 07:41:04 PM | PS--Oisin5199: Yes, It's Eliza by Media Messiah | Oct 28th, 2008 07:55:35 PM | Amended: PS--Oisin5199: Yes,
It's Eliza by Media Messiah | Oct 28th, 2008 08:03:08 PM | In that scene,,, by TotalFreedom | Oct 28th, 2008 08:42:07 PM | pretty sure Josh will sez by Melvin_Pelvis | Oct 28th, 2008 09:13:59 PM | Exposure to Wesley by Melvin_Pelvis | Oct 28th, 2008 09:39:02 PM | TotalFreedom by Media Messiah | Oct 29th, 2008 12:18:51 AM | moar ninjas will fix this by Melvin_Pelvis | Oct 29th, 2008 12:30:36 AM | TotalFreedom by Media Messiah | Oct 29th, 2008 12:49:23 AM | God, is he insufferable. by AnnoyYou | Oct 29th, 2008 03:39:57 AM | Whedon is a fool by evil twin | Oct 29th, 2008 05:21:42 AM | O/T: Zach and Miri Looks About
as Funny as Prostate Cancer by Aquatarkusman | Oct 29th, 2008 08:18:45 AM | it's official, Whedon is an
idiot by spidercoz | Oct 29th, 2008 11:03:37 AM | Patton Oswalt by buffywrestling | Oct 29th, 2008 06:02:48 PM | Media Messiah by password.swordfish | Oct 30th, 2008 10:29:43 AM | Password. SwordFish:
Sociopaths Vs. Psychopaths by Media Messiah | Oct 31st, 2008 11:08:49 PM | I Found Something:
www.mcafee.cc/Bn/sb.html by Media Messiah | Oct 31st, 2008 11:49:19 PM | More Proof I Am Dyslexic by Media Messiah | Oct 31st, 2008 11:52:16 PM |
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