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Whedon: Original DOLLHOUSE Pilot Will Not See Air!! Plus BUFFY/GALACTICA Writer Jane Espenson Has Joined The Show!!

I am – Hercules!!


What we heard earlier about Joss Whedon’s original “Dollhouse” pilot airing as the series’ second episode?

Never mind.

Apparently Fox is not going to air that original pilot at all. Whedon himself explains in a post on his worship-site, Whedonesque.com:

The original pilot was in fact thrown out. Again, at my behest. Once it became clear what paradigm the Network was shooting for, it just didn't fit at all, even after I'd reshot more than half of it (see above re: despair).

A bit further down the post, there’s this:

I will be crying on the shoulder of Jane Espenson come Monday, so congratudolences are in order. Excited for the Jane Flava.

Me also. “Galactica” vet Espenson was my favorite “Buffy” writer not named Joss.

Espenson tells AICN via email that her contract with NBC Universal expired in May, and she has joined Fox's "Dollhouse" as consulting producer, effective tomorrow.

Espenson is just the latest "Angel" writer to join "Dollhouse," following Tim Minear, Steven S. DeKnight, Sarah Fain and Liz Craft.

I was here going to link to Whedon’s entire Whedonesque post, but Whedonesque seems to be momentarily broken, so here’s the whole thing, which you can read without clicking anything:

What happened when the lights went out.

Sadly, this is not a naughty post. It's just Joss nattering on again.

I thought it was time to check in with you once again, gentle viewers. Or readers. Or pictures-looker-ats (that might be viewers). Also listeners, sniffers, haberdashers, Olympic hopefuls, the elderly, the youngerdly, and the mighty state of Oregon (go Oregon-based sports franchise!) Welcome all. Welcome... to me.

What's me up to? I'm glad me asked. Me've (I'm not doing that any more) been working on a little show called Dollhouse. Yes, perhaps you've read about how it's blazing an untrammeled path to surefire success, with nary a hitch or a hiccup, just pure blazing blazery, comet-like and meteoresque. What's that, you say? You've read other things? Dark, Yog-Sothothy rumors about shutdowns and delays? Poppycock! They’re true. But I never pass up a chance to say "poppycock". ("Balderdash" is so '07. Let it go.) I know there's been a lot of concern, various fabulous hues of panic alert readiness. So here's the skinny. Some of the names have been changed.

The show was ruined by Flim Flinear. Okay, that's another lie, and you're probably close to giving up on this blog, so here we go. Yes, we've had to make adjustments. Yes, it's been hard and I've been depressing to be around for awhile. Basically, the Network and I had different ideas about what the tone of the show would be. They bought something somewhat different than what I was selling them, which is not that uncommon in this business. Their desires were not surprising: up the stakes, make the episodes more stand-alone, stop talking about relationships and cut to the chase. Oh, and add a chase. That you can cut to. Nothing I hadn't heard before on my other shows (apparently my learning curve has no bendy part) but frustrating as hell given our circumstances - a pilot shot, scripts written, everybody marching together/gainfully employed... and then a shutdown. Glad I was for the breathing room, but it's hardly auspicious. So back into the writer cave I went, wondering why I put up with this when I can make literally dozens of dollars making internet movies. Why I do put up with this is divided into three parts.

One: They're not wrong. Oh, we don't see eye-to-eye on everything, but wanting the first episodes to be exciting and accessible is not exactly Satanic. Being Satan is, but that's in their free time and hey, there's no judging in the Dollhouse. This kind of back and forth has happened on every show I've done, so if you liked those, chances are that was a part of why. And the need to focus on the essentials of what makes this universe tick - and which wire to cut to make it stop - really does bring up our game. So we as a staff have gone from blinking like unhoused moles to delving in with the same relish we had when we started. The show is really coming together now, in a way that I believe excites us and satisfies the Network. Of course, I have no idea if anybody else will like it, but I have the same faith in the staff, the crew and the remarkable cast that I always did. More, in fact. And what's more crucial:

Two: Nothing essential has changed about the universe. The ideas and relationships that intrigued me from the start are all there (though some have shifted, more on that), and the progression of the first thirteen eps has me massively excited. The episode we're shooting now I wrote as fast as anything I have before, not because I had to (although, funny side-note: I had to) but because I couldn't stop the words from coming. Because I can feel the show talking to me; delighting, scaring and occasionally even offending me. It's alive. Alive! Which is a far cry from how I felt a month ago. It's been hilarious trying to keep up with what's in, what's out, who's met whom and when - we've shot all of the first seven episodes out of airing order - but it's come together in a pretty thrilling way. My huge gratitude to our cast for their precision and patience. Which also includes...

Three: Eliza. Watching her on the monitors at two o'clock this morning I was reminded forcibly how much I wished I were in bed – but also how strong, radiant and unmistakable her presence is. She's someone who could coast on talent and never ever does. I love to watch her work. In fact, I think I got myself into this mess for that very reason, and though I have this fall occasionally sworn never to eat lunch with an actor I like again, I’m pretty pleased and crazy proud.

So here's me, slogging away on a show like days of old and not hating life. Again, you guys will be the judge, jury and execu... lawyer, but we do have something to show you. Something, I'm chuffed to say, still pretty damn strange.

As for what's been changed, well, some things I obviously can't tell you. Some I can, for the record: The original pilot was in fact thrown out. Again, at my behest. Once it became clear what paradigm the Network was shooting for, it just didn't fit at all, even after I'd reshot more than half of it (see above re: despair). To get a sense of how completely turned around I was during this process, you should know there was a scene with Eliza and the astonishing Ashley Johnson that I wrote and shot completely differently three different times, with different characters in different places (actually I wrote it closer to eight times), and none of it will ever see air. Which is as it should be (though I'm determined to get Ms. Johnson back in the future). The scene just didn't belong anymore. Similarly, the character of November has fallen out of the mix, because the show simply moves too fast now for me to do what I wanted with her. Season three, anyone...? Happily, Miracle Laurie is still with us in a new role, playing against (and pining for) Tahmoh's character, Paul Ballard. Their chemistry is deeply nifty. The only other major cast shift is that the Dollhouse head of security, Laurence Dominic (played by Reed Diamond), who was written just for the now-defunct first ep, has stuck like fly-paper, and Reed is very much in the family for the present. (Most of my problems seem to involve my actors making themselves indispensable. This is the good problem kind.)

Apart from that, it's all hush-hush: some things I'd intended to hold back are laid out much sooner, and some are rolling out more slowly. We're still heading toward Tim's intense two-part mind-blower - right before a thirteenth ep that may actually just be insane.

And finally, young Steve DeKnight, after writing and shooting an ep so cool it helped not only define the show but save its ass, is ending his consulting duties, the f#%&er. I will be crying on the shoulder of Jane Espenson come Monday, so congratudolences are in order. Excited for the Jane Flava.

And there you have it. I'll be writing more bulletins about "Cabin" and a certain DVD in the very near future, but I wanted to get you all some actual information for a change. I can count on you guys not to tell anyone, right? What's a blog?

Faithfully, -joss.

“Dollhouse” hits the Fox network early next year.






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Sigh...
by fishpillow
Oct 27th, 2008
02:31:02 PM
Please do movies Joss...
by drewlicious
Oct 27th, 2008
02:33:43 PM
As long as Joss is still excited, so am I
by Acappellaman
Oct 27th, 2008
02:34:05 PM
Gone...
by fishpillow
Oct 27th, 2008
02:34:34 PM
"what paradigm the Network was shooting for" wtf?
by punto
Oct 27th, 2008
02:38:19 PM
Fox forced Firefly to be shown out of order...
by chromedome
Oct 27th, 2008
02:44:15 PM
I have a baaaad feeling about this show...
by SpyGuy
Oct 27th, 2008
02:46:12 PM
hey, I've never seen the original Buffy pilot either:
by newc0253
Oct 27th, 2008
02:50:41 PM
Re: That BSG ad at the bottom of the post.
by Fawst
Oct 27th, 2008
02:54:12 PM
I'll have no sympathy for him
by SilentP
Oct 27th, 2008
02:54:14 PM
FOX loves to cancel good shows...
by Fawst
Oct 27th, 2008
02:56:38 PM
To be clear
by SilentP
Oct 27th, 2008
02:56:40 PM
I'm almost apprehensive to check this out b/c of FOX
by turketron
Oct 27th, 2008
03:00:20 PM
Good God
by tiredpm
Oct 27th, 2008
03:00:52 PM
tiredpm
by chiahead
Oct 27th, 2008
03:02:10 PM
".. what paradigm the Network was shooting for"
by supertoyslast
Oct 27th, 2008
03:07:02 PM
Fox sucks
by dioxholster
Oct 27th, 2008
03:07:41 PM
Eh
by Mr. Zeddemore
Oct 27th, 2008
03:10:08 PM
What the suits thought they were buying...
by photoboy
Oct 27th, 2008
03:10:46 PM
tiredpm and chiahead
by Le Vicious Fishus
Oct 27th, 2008
03:12:38 PM
Fawst- BSG ad looks funny.
by dioxholster
Oct 27th, 2008
03:12:44 PM
I can't wait
by _Maltheus_
Oct 27th, 2008
03:16:58 PM
_Maltheus_
by Mr. Zeddemore
Oct 27th, 2008
03:22:08 PM
Thank you, tiredpm,chiahead and le vicious fishus
by tonagan
Oct 27th, 2008
03:31:13 PM
Go to SHOTIME! Now
by MrFloppy
Oct 27th, 2008
03:34:02 PM
86 pilots leaked over the past few months.....
by Riley Martin
Oct 27th, 2008
03:34:17 PM
The updates kinda kill the show
by Bass Ackwards
Oct 27th, 2008
03:35:03 PM
Firefly
by frozen01
Oct 27th, 2008
03:36:36 PM
"make the episodes more stand-alone"??
by Dreamwriter
Oct 27th, 2008
03:50:13 PM
Dreamwriter
by Acappellaman
Oct 27th, 2008
04:28:23 PM
Oops
by Acappellaman
Oct 27th, 2008
04:28:51 PM
Bass Ackwards you're right...
by SmokeFilledTavern
Oct 27th, 2008
04:39:40 PM
Simple equasion
by fishpillow
Oct 27th, 2008
04:51:09 PM
relax
by oisin5199
Oct 27th, 2008
04:51:56 PM
C'mon guys....
by fishpillow
Oct 27th, 2008
04:55:52 PM
re: Serenity
by _Maltheus_
Oct 27th, 2008
04:56:08 PM
bud lite mode joss
by alice 13
Oct 27th, 2008
04:56:30 PM
Whedon -
by ikkyu
Oct 27th, 2008
05:05:40 PM
Maltheus: Jane was no good Samaritan...
by mbeemer
Oct 27th, 2008
05:08:32 PM
So what he's really saying is...
by medicinaluser
Oct 27th, 2008
05:17:56 PM
First of all it's Jayne
by yodaismyhomie
Oct 27th, 2008
05:18:09 PM
wow 32.50 for BG's 10 episode
by rben
Oct 27th, 2008
05:19:36 PM
I hate to say this...
by landocolt45
Oct 27th, 2008
05:21:30 PM
Once Again, I Called This On Dollhouse Months Ago!!!
by Media Messiah
Oct 27th, 2008
05:25:45 PM
Go To You Tube For The Original Buffy Pilot!!!
by Media Messiah
Oct 27th, 2008
05:27:08 PM
I have a bad feeling about this.
by V'Shael
Oct 27th, 2008
05:35:50 PM
Hey, Medicinaluser, I'm Here!!!
by Media Messiah
Oct 27th, 2008
05:38:05 PM
Say No to Showtime! They hate Scifi
by V'Shael
Oct 27th, 2008
05:42:14 PM
Joss Whedon sat on a wall
by snowpuff
Oct 27th, 2008
05:52:25 PM
Why Does He Bother With Fox??
by Oldnewbie
Oct 27th, 2008
06:04:17 PM
Media Messiah ..Thank The Lords
by medicinaluser
Oct 27th, 2008
06:24:42 PM
Good News!
by Prior Walter
Oct 27th, 2008
06:29:06 PM
Media Messiah
by RenoNevada2000
Oct 27th, 2008
07:12:30 PM
This is turning into quite the bizarre saga
by bravogolfhotel
Oct 27th, 2008
07:26:24 PM
Thanks Medicinaluser
by Media Messiah
Oct 27th, 2008
07:56:42 PM
Nose Spite Face
by MajorMajorMajor
Oct 27th, 2008
08:09:44 PM
RenoNevada2000: Fox Execs
by Media Messiah
Oct 27th, 2008
08:10:51 PM
So Whedon REALLY talks like that?
by JimCurry
Oct 27th, 2008
08:15:29 PM
Look god damnit.


by Melvin_Pelvis

Oct 27th, 2008
09:08:15 PM
Sorry, wait, let me start over
by Melvin_Pelvis
Oct 27th, 2008
09:09:13 PM
I, mean, like
by Melvin_Pelvis
Oct 27th, 2008
09:32:10 PM
does anyone else
by nora inu
Oct 27th, 2008
09:47:11 PM
So many superhero-secretagent-spy shows...
by Christopher3
Oct 27th, 2008
10:08:06 PM
Man, why'd Joss have to go and trust Fox again?
by SpacePhil
Oct 27th, 2008
11:00:34 PM
Well, this show is a certainly a clusterfuck
by TallBoy66
Oct 28th, 2008
01:13:43 AM
TallBoy is right. This is a clusterfuck.
by Starship Captain
Oct 28th, 2008
03:30:30 AM
Nuts
by MajorMajorMajor
Oct 28th, 2008
04:18:49 AM
Save Angel
by masteryoda007
Oct 28th, 2008
04:41:28 AM
Why did i read that and imagine Ellen Page speaking?
by IAmMrMonkey!
Oct 28th, 2008
05:12:36 AM
parts is parts
by Melvin_Pelvis
Oct 28th, 2008
08:46:21 AM
it boggles the mind...
by RockLobster800
Oct 28th, 2008
08:47:07 AM
Hearing Whedon Dialogue is Like Jamming Pencils in My Ears
by Aquatarkusman
Oct 28th, 2008
08:47:40 AM
Is it too early to start a petition to save the show?
by Mickguinness
Oct 28th, 2008
09:00:54 AM
If it goes past Season 1 it will be a miracle...
by TKurata
Oct 28th, 2008
09:01:46 AM
Starship Captain...
by Mickguinness
Oct 28th, 2008
09:10:31 AM
Give Fox a break?
by password.swordfish
Oct 28th, 2008
10:26:34 AM
Joss, oh Joss, Have You Learned Nothing?
by Rogue Planet
Oct 28th, 2008
10:30:23 AM
Media Messiah
by oisin5199
Oct 28th, 2008
02:52:52 PM
I have no trust in this guy
by Melvin_Pelvis
Oct 28th, 2008
03:50:59 PM
Proves that Fox and Joss had no clue
by kabong
Oct 28th, 2008
04:17:17 PM
Re: password
by Cobbio
Oct 28th, 2008
04:36:51 PM
So comic book guy needs a job
by Melvin_Pelvis
Oct 28th, 2008
05:10:10 PM
melvin_pelvis
by buffywrestling
Oct 28th, 2008
05:47:29 PM
buffywrestling
by Melvin_Pelvis
Oct 28th, 2008
06:05:19 PM
muther fucker inflicted Wes on me
by Melvin_Pelvis
Oct 28th, 2008
06:09:05 PM
Joss has....
by fishpillow
Oct 28th, 2008
06:10:56 PM
Canceled Mid-Season, Creates Cult Following, Film Released, FOX
by LaserPants
Oct 28th, 2008
06:36:27 PM
FOX Makes Crazy LOOT On DVDs From Show They Canceled
by LaserPants
Oct 28th, 2008
06:37:18 PM
Oh. You have gotham_knight's posting style - sorry
by buffywrestling
Oct 28th, 2008
07:17:30 PM
Hi, Oisin5199
by Media Messiah
Oct 28th, 2008
07:32:08 PM
re:Oh. You have gotham_knight's posting style
by Melvin_Pelvis
Oct 28th, 2008
07:41:04 PM
PS--Oisin5199: Yes, It's Eliza
by Media Messiah
Oct 28th, 2008
07:55:35 PM
Amended: PS--Oisin5199: Yes, It's Eliza
by Media Messiah
Oct 28th, 2008
08:03:08 PM
In that scene,,,
by TotalFreedom
Oct 28th, 2008
08:42:07 PM
pretty sure Josh will sez
by Melvin_Pelvis
Oct 28th, 2008
09:13:59 PM
Exposure to Wesley
by Melvin_Pelvis
Oct 28th, 2008
09:39:02 PM
TotalFreedom
by Media Messiah
Oct 29th, 2008
12:18:51 AM
moar ninjas will fix this
by Melvin_Pelvis
Oct 29th, 2008
12:30:36 AM
TotalFreedom
by Media Messiah
Oct 29th, 2008
12:49:23 AM
God, is he insufferable.
by AnnoyYou
Oct 29th, 2008
03:39:57 AM
Whedon is a fool
by evil twin
Oct 29th, 2008
05:21:42 AM
O/T: Zach and Miri Looks About as Funny as Prostate Cancer
by Aquatarkusman
Oct 29th, 2008
08:18:45 AM
it's official, Whedon is an idiot
by spidercoz
Oct 29th, 2008
11:03:37 AM
Patton Oswalt
by buffywrestling
Oct 29th, 2008
06:02:48 PM
Media Messiah
by password.swordfish
Oct 30th, 2008
10:29:43 AM
Password. SwordFish: Sociopaths Vs. Psychopaths
by Media Messiah
Oct 31st, 2008
11:08:49 PM
I Found Something: www.mcafee.cc/Bn/sb.html
by Media Messiah
Oct 31st, 2008
11:49:19 PM
More Proof I Am Dyslexic
by Media Messiah
Oct 31st, 2008
11:52:16 PM

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